Nice.

very Good special edition of the Opera desktop version

I say the "special edition" should come with a signed photograph of the dev team.

yeah great !!!

Great work on supporting an important project!

For those of us without "happy feet," great sleek OLPC skin! (May suggest you add some cool skinnable buttons, though, if possible -- that show in Gmail and others with skinnable page design.)

i love opera forever!

great!

Wish I was running on unix to give this fresh special a test, haha. Congratz on the progress tho guys!

You can test the toolbar and the skin on every system.
Actually, i don't like the skin very much. Don't know how it works on the OLPC, but on my Thinkpad its terrible. Much to dark, icons (and coming with this tabs) too big, and the white address- and zoom-boxes don't fit with the rest of the skin.
The idea is nice, and the buttons are cute, but it definitely isn't a skin i'd use for more than a short look.
And toolbar-setting doesn't really work here, too. I copied it to my profile-directory and then just selected the setting from Opera preferences. All it did was put the tabs below the browsing window and switch off everything else. Maybe its because i switched of many of the default toolbars in my personal toolbar.ini, i use only main-, status- and tab-bar. Which toolbars are supposed to be active with the OLPC-toolbar.ini?

Martin

Martin, the OLPC laptop has 200 DPI - it looks *very* different on the device than on a normal desktop. Also the whole environment is very different and minimalistic, and the that toolbar is already "full-blown" when compared to the rest of the environment

The olpc_toolbar.ini is stuck somewhere in the system - when it's up I'll post a link in the post, so people can play with it. The skin really needs the custom toolbar to work.

Tell people at OLPC to make Opera default browser.

Will this become the next MultiTorg Opera that everyone wants?

Yeah, i found the toolbar.ini, that was no big deal. But just changing from my toolbar.ini to olpc-toolbar.ini left me with nothing more than tabs. No address-bar, status-bar, address-field on any other bar, no menu... thats why i asked which toolbars should be enabled with olpc-skin and olpc-toolbar.ini
And i think i try the skin again with 50% icon-size, this should work better as my display has something like 85 dpi

Martin

Martin, the olpc_toolbar is how you get your toolbars on the OLPC. Anything else would be either too small, or taking up too much space. The setup does not really work on a normal desktop screen. But maybe somebody does manage to adapt it to his/her needs?

I dunno if this is a surprise, but the random rendering bug is here, too.

What's the biggest differences in the OLPC and the "regular" Operas?

Kennycrudup, the differences are listed in the post See a short summary here.

I really hope this will become a new 'weekly-variant'.

This build seems to be about 10 percent faster then the normal static weekly, without loosing functionality; probably because it is build against GCC4.1.

Good work!

Jan

Nice! I digged this.

Heh. I've been running GCC 4.1.1/Qt 3.3.7 for a while now (while trying to track down my bug); I guess that's why I haven't noticed much difference.

Duly posted on linux1.no

Great

What other browsers are available for OLPCs ?

So we have an Opera OLPC Edition, Opera on mobiles, PDAs, Nintendo DS and Wii. Is there a chance for a native 64Bit version of Opera for my Debian Etch (almost stable)? Windows Vista 64 is also coming soon and 64 bit flash plugin work is ongoing (http://www.kaourantin.net/2007/01/non-beta-flash-player-9-for-linux.html)

Maybe from the Peregrine code branch ?

Congratulations for Opera Team. I think that Opera is the best browser in the world without none doubt, I only have one think to ask when will be include the NTLM authentication in Linux, some peoples don´t uses it for that reason.

It's really great to see Opera actively supporting the OLPC project. I really hope it'll become the default browser. With only 200 DPI on a screen, there's no other browser than Opera that still can render pages in such a way that it'll actually make sense.

Surely the technical aspect is nice, but I'd be more interested in finding out what the exact role of the Opera Browser will be on the OLPC.

Is it going to be the sole browser on the system?

"Heh. I've been running GCC 4.1.1/Qt 3.3.7 for a while now (while trying to track down my bug); I guess that's why I haven't noticed much difference."

The fact that you run that Qt version is relevant, but the fact that you have GCC 4.1 is not. You see, that's the compiler the opera people seem to use to compile their internal sources to these binary programs we download and test.

If you yourself would be able to compile from the sources than it's usefull to have an up-to-date version of GCC.
Having a recent version installed on your system does not have any impact on runnning a program compiled with it.

RachidNL wrote:
"only 200 DPI"
Well, I guess 200 DPI doesn't fit together with 'only' ;-)

But, I read on some wiki site (either the project's wiki or Wikipedia), that 200 DPI is only available in bookmode, i.e. black&white low power for reading book. Color display has lower resolution.
Feel free to correct me.

Does it do SVG, like most other Opera versions?

Does it do SVG, like most other Opera versions?

Why not? I'm shure it does.

Originally posted by stelt:

Does it do SVG?

Yes of course

Following on to fei_l0ng's question about 64-bit support.

Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) will go 64-bit (with 32-bit compatibility) when released around April/May. Any plans to offer 64-bit Mac build?

(I wonder if this would provide significant performance boost with a given bandwidth...?)

@Muts: you should know I'm a Dev too and build nearly everything (and nearly everything connected to Opera- X11, GLIBC, Qt, Freetype, yadda yadda yadda) from source.

@kyleabaker Thank you for <browser.js> info. YMB is working again !!

A question:

Why on Gmail, I get in the address bar a <disablechatbrowsercheck=1>, is it done by Opera or by Gmail guys ?

((PERSONAL OPINION ))
I think that when Opera operates on "disable browser check" or "system requirements = ignore > web pages are not fixing problems with Opera, they just let Opera work "on your own" but they don't work for Opera as they do for IE or Firefox, so in that way Opera will never be as popular as the other two.

@kamalesh: We're working on 64bit support for future versions, but the main focus there is Linux (and friends) since Windows and Mac have transparent support for 32bit applications on 64bit systems. We don't expect large speed differences between the two versions.

@borg
thank you for the answer. I guess there is no date besides the famous W.I.R
:-D

M2 is needing a really kick for progress, don't forget about this!

it doesn't look nice on desktop (yes because ~twice dpi)
it doesn't support arabic (not presto of course ~may be just the skin)
the skin may be better for desktops, but it doesn't fit the need of the target audiance (the last character in olpc), it seems dosen't respect children innocence
i realy care of the skin specialy when it is for children, they always want bright colors, like olpc itself, yes it is customizable, but who know ? children that use it ? they will prefer using another browser instead of customize it

it doesn't support arabic

Could you be more precise, please? What exactly is not "supported"?

they always want bright colors

Well, like it or not - these are the colors of the XO UI We are just making sure to fit nicely into the system colors.

@csant
arabic bookmarks and menus only, don't panic, the browser is ok

the other point, that's of ui, i don't know what that xo looks, but i will be proud if olpc users found that opera is the most beautiful thing (in their expected thought) onto their olpc.
if your customers are children, then you had to care of their impression

I can't download Opera 9.12 from:

http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/o912w_8701m.exe

Is something wrong on your side?

[]s

> I can't download Opera 9.12 from:

Probably because it's off topic.

@xErath

hahaha.

WOOOHOO
this static build fixes http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=156692 for me! normal static builds do not, they also stall when opening new tabs, this one opens new tabs/links immediatelly without huge cpu spike

BUT, but as every static build
-GUI fonts are BUTT UGLY, it looks like bad kerning
[img]http://www.keepmyfile.com/thumb/1169911960a5824a.gif
http://www.keepmyfile.com/image/a5824a1354297

-clicking "Bookmarks" with RMB opens them, after opening bookmarks mouse cursor is right over the first bookmark, now letting go RMB makes opera immediatelly GO to the first bookmark ?!?!?! in dynamic builds one click opens bookmarks and SECOND click makes opera perform action, not letting go the first click

This build IS faster then the normal statics.

Please switch to GCC4.x for the normal static builds too

Jan

Huge buttons!
This skin reary seems to be experimental (some buttons look like
"Opera standart" skin). I do not like this Black skin.
I think, one of the best skins is: my_qute_blue-1_01
and all skins that are shiny/ crytal are cool.

I`m a newbee (regitered today) at opera community, where i can
upload screenshots of my own (more comfortable than
standart) "best of" Toolbar and button placement? As suggestion
for better new default Toolbar and button placement (s). I want
make Opera better and more comfotable, I want the users needn`t change so much for maximum comfort (I need minimum 10 minutes
extra).

OK, the Panel (default)is better, than in every other browser,
keep it (but add the black dubble arrows in the panel that
extend the downloadmanager etc. like in Opera 8.50`s default).
The rest of this standart Toolbar and button placement is not so
good that is the reason, why many people do not switch to Opera
and switch to or stay by FireFox or stay by Internet Explorer
( ). I have seen in many posts and bloggs, many people
hate this standart (Toolbar and button placement) setting and
switch to FireFox. I hate this standart setting too, but I do
not switch to FireFox, I customize Opera, but it is very time
consuming.

I have made a "BEST OF". Inspired By diffrent browsers, it will
make the switch to opera more easy. I have picked the best
details of all browsers, I used: internet exporer 6, FireFox
1.xxx, Opera 7.2x (test only [ads] ), Opera 8.xx (up to 8.4x
test only, since 8.50 as primary browser) , Opera 9.xx (up to
the actual 9.10).

My comfortable Toolbar and button placement got positive
feedback by people I know. Example: my one of my teachers, was
before 2 weeks an Internet Exploerer 5 & 6 user (he had never
testet an alternative browser bevore) , he likes my Toolbar and
button placement and did not be confused, switching
(uesung standart functions) was easy.

Info I nvver liked default Toolbar and button settings/ placements.
-> All testet and used browsers were affectet!!!!

@masterofopera

welcome, this post is for opera olpc edition not for the skin, but me too i didn't find the skin very attractive (as a child mind), buttons are so big because olpc has 200 dpi (dot per inch) which is very high for normal desktop, it must look fine on olpc.

for photos upload go to this page: http://my.opera.com/masterofopera/albums/ (while you are loged in) and start new album and go ahead
or as you think your toolbar configurations are worthy you can upload your setup here: http://my.opera.com/community/customize/setups/ .

what you wish, what you hate, you can explan all that in opera wishlist http://my.opera.com/community/forums/forum.dml?id=24 , hope opera developers hear you

here: http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/ , you can dowload the last weekly release (of course beta) test it and annoye developers with bugs that you found as we do

i expect reading from you in the forums soon

I want to report a problem with that build I am browsing and the Opera menu toolbar don´t responds and I haveto repair the instalation, some time later everything back to normality and the used of virtual memory is very high, above to 100 Mb and last a page that before I can see it, now some images see out of place and I can fix with anything.

Hey I have another problem I lost my personal data, today when I start Opera, everything are like, if was the first time that Opera was started, my previous configuration disappear.

could someone try this site out on the OLPC?

http://fuelwatch.wa.gov.au/prices/dsp_search.cfm?search=Price

try double clicking on ULP to get it to go to the right side
compare with Op 8.54
compare with IE7

assuming that this OLPC version is the same as build 8701,
it probably has the same unable to close windows bug.

a) open 5x tabs
b) Ctrl-0 for windows panel
c) select any
d) press delele key

nothing happens.

nice job guys! :-D

Windows build this week?